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		<title>Comment on what do you get when you put 1,000 psychologists together in one journal? by guy incognito</title>
		<link>http://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2013/04/05/what-do-you-get-when-you-put-1000-psychologists-together-in-one-journal/comment-page-1/#comment-21550</link>
		<dc:creator>guy incognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 08:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[awesome.  is the code to make the interactive graph available somewhere?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome.  is the code to make the interactive graph available somewhere?</p>
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		<title>Comment on R, the master troll of statistical languages by Wendell</title>
		<link>http://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2012/06/08/r-the-master-troll-of-statistical-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-21531</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 20:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thom: &quot;even R fanatics don’t tend to use or advocate R for general programming – just for statistics.&quot;

Not disputing your general argument, but I just finished reading the book, &quot;Quantitative Corpus Linguistics with R&quot;, in which R is promoted for text processing. I think it was the most mind-numbing misapplication of a programming language I have ever seen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thom: &#8220;even R fanatics don’t tend to use or advocate R for general programming – just for statistics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not disputing your general argument, but I just finished reading the book, &#8220;Quantitative Corpus Linguistics with R&#8221;, in which R is promoted for text processing. I think it was the most mind-numbing misapplication of a programming language I have ever seen.</p>
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		<title>Comment on R, the master troll of statistical languages by Thom</title>
		<link>http://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2012/06/08/r-the-master-troll-of-statistical-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-21166</link>
		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John P. : &quot;However, I can only see R fanatics insisting that this is a full tool all by itself because most apps in the world need statistics as ONE of the outputs of a piece of software.&quot;

That&#039;s a bit of a straw man - even R fanatics don&#039;t tend to use or advocate R for general programming - just for statistics. Most R fanatics (that&#039;s I&#039;m aware of) will happily use other languages to call R (e.g., Python) or use R to manage other software (JAGs etc.).

Mind you, lots of R users probably over-use R in the sense that some other language would be more efficient for their task, but that&#039;s because of switching and other costs. However, that&#039;s a general rule of programming (or indeed technology).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John P. : &#8220;However, I can only see R fanatics insisting that this is a full tool all by itself because most apps in the world need statistics as ONE of the outputs of a piece of software.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bit of a straw man &#8211; even R fanatics don&#8217;t tend to use or advocate R for general programming &#8211; just for statistics. Most R fanatics (that&#8217;s I&#8217;m aware of) will happily use other languages to call R (e.g., Python) or use R to manage other software (JAGs etc.).</p>
<p>Mind you, lots of R users probably over-use R in the sense that some other language would be more efficient for their task, but that&#8217;s because of switching and other costs. However, that&#8217;s a general rule of programming (or indeed technology).</p>
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		<title>Comment on R, the master troll of statistical languages by John P</title>
		<link>http://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2012/06/08/r-the-master-troll-of-statistical-languages/comment-page-1/#comment-21164</link>
		<dc:creator>John P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[R gives the world its ten-thousand-and-first computer language.  However, I have found that using R as a standalone language is a bad idea.  It&#039;s much, much better to prepare data for R, and to receive data from R, from a scripting language like Perl or Python or Ruby.   The extraordinarily limited number of data types, the lack of pointers (references), and a host of other things make this tough sledding for people who are used to languages that can stand on their own.  

R&#039;s convenience functions for textual data are hilariously underpowered.  It&#039;s nice that R circumvents the bloatedness of old SPSS or SAS programs and it&#039;s also nice that R is so easy to call from all the major scripting languages.  However, I can only see R fanatics insisting that this is a full tool all by itself because most apps in the world need statistics as ONE of  the outputs of a piece of software.  That&#039;s why your, for example, Perl script calls R as a kind of Perl convenience function ... and it is VERY convenient for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R gives the world its ten-thousand-and-first computer language.  However, I have found that using R as a standalone language is a bad idea.  It&#8217;s much, much better to prepare data for R, and to receive data from R, from a scripting language like Perl or Python or Ruby.   The extraordinarily limited number of data types, the lack of pointers (references), and a host of other things make this tough sledding for people who are used to languages that can stand on their own.  </p>
<p>R&#8217;s convenience functions for textual data are hilariously underpowered.  It&#8217;s nice that R circumvents the bloatedness of old SPSS or SAS programs and it&#8217;s also nice that R is so easy to call from all the major scripting languages.  However, I can only see R fanatics insisting that this is a full tool all by itself because most apps in the world need statistics as ONE of  the outputs of a piece of software.  That&#8217;s why your, for example, Perl script calls R as a kind of Perl convenience function &#8230; and it is VERY convenient for that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on the truth is not optional: five bad reasons (and one mediocre one) for defending the status quo by Improving Interpretation of Science Writing &#124; Houses of Stones</title>
		<link>http://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2013/03/12/the-truth-is-not-optional-five-bad-reasons-and-one-mediocre-one-for-defending-the-status-quo/comment-page-1/#comment-21096</link>
		<dc:creator>Improving Interpretation of Science Writing &#124; Houses of Stones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] scientists are blamed, and rightly so. Sometimes criticisms identify more systemic problems like current scientific practice, or scientific institutions like the NSF or a university, or academia in general. Blame is also [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] scientists are blamed, and rightly so. Sometimes criticisms identify more systemic problems like current scientific practice, or scientific institutions like the NSF or a university, or academia in general. Blame is also [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Feynman&#8217;s first principle: on the virtue of changing one&#8217;s mind by Feynman’s first principle: on the virtue of changing one’s mind &#124; SimoleonSense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feynman’s first principle: on the virtue of changing one’s mind &#124; SimoleonSense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on what do you get when you put 1,000 psychologists together in one journal? by Kristina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 21:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://pilab.colorado.edu/assets/authordata.json is the data. The nods part is a list of the authors, the links is a list of how theyre related, using the indexes of nodes as the id for source and target.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pilab.colorado.edu/assets/authordata.json" rel="nofollow">http://pilab.colorado.edu/assets/authordata.json</a> is the data. The nods part is a list of the authors, the links is a list of how theyre related, using the indexes of nodes as the id for source and target.</p>
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		<title>Comment on what do you get when you put 1,000 psychologists together in one journal? by Gilad</title>
		<link>http://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/2013/04/05/what-do-you-get-when-you-put-1000-psychologists-together-in-one-journal/comment-page-1/#comment-20394</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 12:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s really cool :) 

Is that data available in its raw form?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really cool <img src='http://www.talyarkoni.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Is that data available in its raw form?</p>
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		<title>Comment on the truth is not optional: five bad reasons (and one mediocre one) for defending the status quo by Tal Yarkoni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tal Yarkoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 01:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rich, if you read this blog regularly you&#039;ll know that I&#039;m the last person who&#039;d endorse slavish adherence to p-values. The point I&#039;m making is, if anything, the opposite: the fact that a paper reports an interesting effect at p &lt; .05 is *not* a sufficient reason to accept the paper, and reviewers should often feel free to ask for more data if the effect seems wildly implausible. The point holds whether you&#039;re taking p values, effect sizes, or confidence intervals as your metric of plausibility, and I&#039;m with you in thinking we should privilege the latter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich, if you read this blog regularly you&#8217;ll know that I&#8217;m the last person who&#8217;d endorse slavish adherence to p-values. The point I&#8217;m making is, if anything, the opposite: the fact that a paper reports an interesting effect at p < .05 is *not* a sufficient reason to accept the paper, and reviewers should often feel free to ask for more data if the effect seems wildly implausible. The point holds whether you&#8217;re taking p values, effect sizes, or confidence intervals as your metric of plausibility, and I&#8217;m with you in thinking we should privilege the latter.</p>
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		<title>Comment on the truth is not optional: five bad reasons (and one mediocre one) for defending the status quo by Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 00:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the sentiment that the degree of evidence should be proportional to the strength of the claim, but I don&#039;t like the implication that we become slaves to an arbitrary p-value. As long as journals only publish p &lt; .05, we will see ad hoc explanations presented as a priori, and failure to correctly adjust for multiple comparisons. 

Rather than advocating for stricter p-value enforcement, we should be asking scientists to provide confidence intervals or estimates of effect size.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the sentiment that the degree of evidence should be proportional to the strength of the claim, but I don&#8217;t like the implication that we become slaves to an arbitrary p-value. As long as journals only publish p &lt; .05, we will see ad hoc explanations presented as a priori, and failure to correctly adjust for multiple comparisons. </p>
<p>Rather than advocating for stricter p-value enforcement, we should be asking scientists to provide confidence intervals or estimates of effect size.</p>
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